What is a movie star?
By Kerel “Cali” Cain
What makes a movie star a movie star? Most fans think that it’s something as vague as staring in a movie but there is more to the criteria. A movie star is bigger than the movie they are in, which eliminates any actor that is made the face of a franchise; or a property already known in pop culture. These types of movies, Spiderman, Harry Potter and Green Lantern, are bigger than the actor that stars/leads the movie. These pop culture titles can be rebooted are made into sequels without fans arguing over the title character. If fans do argue its for the sake of the pop culture character portrayed and not the actor portraying them (Ben Affleck in Batman). Pop culture characters, titles or franchises have built-in fan bases that studios can expect on a certain profit from. When known actors are chosen for these roles it is mainly for the marketing of the film with appearances on late night TV shows; their lack of movie stardom also makes them relatively cheap compared to a true movie star. Ryan Reynolds as Green Lantern is cheaper than Will Smith and Mark Ruffalo as the Hulk is cheaper than Ed Norton (even though Ed Norton is not a movie star).
A true movie star also doesn’t need another properties fan base to propel a profit because they have their own fan base; however, fan bases are only a small part of the equation. Taylor Lautner proved this when he couldn’t get enough of his Twilight fans to make his movie Abduction a success. If you didn’t know who Taylor Lautner was would I have to tell you he was in Twilight for you to know who he is? For a movie star connections to their work aren’t necessary because they are the brand.
Movie stars transcend their fan base because no fan base is enough to bring big returns on a big budget movie. They count on their name (brand) to appeal to large audiences that are comfortable buying their product; similar to grocery shoppers buying Pepsi or Coke over Sam’s Cola. Bringing a return on one’s investment also doesn’t make a movie star or else over 50 percent of Hollywood would be movie stars. Even if you bring in a return in the majority of your movies that doesn’t make you a movie star; allow me to explain, but first ask yourself this question: is Ice Cube a movie star? He has brought returns in almost all of his movies. In the 16 movies he has been the lead or co-star in only four haven’t made a profit. 9 of out of 16 have more than tripled their investment; however Ice Cube stars in movies that have 10 million to 15 million dollar budgets and they only make about 20 to 50 million dollars in profit. He’s known for his Friday movies which never cost more than 10 million to make and they make about 30 million dollars in profit. He’s only been the lead in one movie that cost over 50 million, XXX: State of the Union, which was a flop, barely making back its budget. The label of a movie star is more than staring in a movie, making a profit and being a brand it is also about competition. Competing in the summer (the time or year where most big budget movies are put out) against pop culture titles that bring in big returns like Tom Cruises Oblivion. Even if you’re not competing in the summer the ability to get a big budget (or small budget) for your movie and bringing back big returns majorly defines a movie star.
The criteria of a movie star are three things: Can you headline a movie that’s not tied to popular culture? Can you bring in 100 million dollars in profit consistently, and do you have the ability to repeat these returns more than five times in an eight movie stretch.
(DVD sales don’t count into what makes a move star it’s purely box off numbers or else the Oslen twins would be movie stars along with Bill Nye the science guy).
Big budgets with big returns is a major factor in determining a movie star because big budgets means that Hollywood insiders view you as a movie star that can bring back big returns. Big returns mean revisits to the theater and world wide appeal. Jonah Hill once said in an interview that he was humbled by his celebrity status when visiting oversees because no one recognized him or even heard of him. That’s because Jonah Hill is not a movie star, along with his celebrity pal James Franco. Jonah’s last hit movie was This Is the End an ensemble movie. 21 Jump Street was a hit, but was already established in pop culture. Jonah’s next big hit was Moneyball, a great movie with a great performance, but he was opposite Brad Pitt (a movie star) so how much was he a part of the success?. All his other movies that he’s lead either didn’t return a profit or barely made over 10 million (I don’t count animated movies for any actor as proof of movie stardom). His only true hit movies were Superbad which he co-stared with Michael Cera an actor as famous as him at the time and Get him to the Greek, back when Russell Brand was still relevant (the trailers with P. Diddy also help).
Franco has never been in a big movie that has had a big return unless its a reboot, has Spiderman in the title or costars Seth Rogan (the closer of the three at becoming a movie star).
General audiences mix acting ability with movie stardom and that’s wrong. Everyone agrees that Daniel-Day Lewis is probably the greatest actor of his generation but he’s not a movie star. He’s been in four movies that made a profit. Four. One was tied to pop culture and had a director with a brand, Lincoln. The other one starred Leonardo Dicaprio; a true movie star.
If I wanted to make 100 million dollars in the movie business there are only five bona fide movie stars I would bet on Cruise, Smith, Denzel, Depp, Sandler and DiCaprio. Depp is arguably the most controversial name on this list, but remember two things: he made the Pirates franchise it didn’t make him and his international appeal is underrated. All of his movies in the last 10 years make money overseas even when they don’t domestically. Sandler on the surface looks controversial but he makes 50 million to 80 million dollar comedies. Comedies. That bring back over 100 million dollars consistently even when critics hate his movies.
Denzel, Smith and DiCaprio enough said. Smith last movie, After Earth is considered a flop and it still made over 100 million. That’s a movie star. Hell, the last movie Will Smith was in that didn’t make a profit was Ali, which he got an Oscar nomination for. Leo almost a certain 100 million dollar return unless it’s an independent studio; see J Edgar or Revolutionary Road two movies with modest returns. Denzel, a movie star, but he would be the last person I give 100 million to in the category of movie stars. 1998’s He Got Game was the last movie he did that didn’t earn money; however every movie since then has earn a profit and only two of those movies weren’t original scripts but remakes of obscure movies. 8 out of 20 made over 100 million but unlike any other movie star he doesn’t do sequels or movies tied to pop culture. Similar to Sandler, Denzel is the movie and relies on his brand alone. Cruise is the second biggest movie star behind Smith having a few movies in the last decade that didn’t earn over 100 million (Rock of ages, Lions for lambs) but he, more so than any other actor consistently triples 100 million dollar budgets, even outside of the Mission Impossible franchise.
Ultimately, what makes a movie star is based on perspective. Generally audiences don’t recognize the differences between a movie star, a star, a great actor or a known celebrity but these differences are evident through an actor’s brand and their movies being a part of pop culture even though the movie didn’t come from pop culture. Identifying a movie star is a vague criteria and even if you disagree with my criteria one should be able to identify that there is a difference between a star in movies and a movie star.
I feel like you’re expressing your opinion on what a movie star is. I had a hard time reading this because my reaction is “hey, here’s another person just spouting their opinion on something like it’s gospel.” Please don’t mistake what I’m saying there as an insult. That was my initial reaction to the piece, because it looks like you came out swinging, so I got defensive.
Here’s an example: ” After Earth is considered a flop and it still made over 100 million. That’s a movie star. ” I can almost imagine the enthusiasm you’re saying this with. You do bring up a lot of movie references and celebrity names, which shows awareness of what you’re talking about. I like that, except that consistently the piece still feels like you’re just arguing a connotative interpretation of the term movie star.
This is a denotative definition of the term “movie star”: an actor or actress who is famous for playing leading roles in movies. I know all of those names, and I believe that all of them have played leading roles in movies. I could be wrong; you seem to pay more attention to the subject than I do. Speaking of which, why is this so important to you? Your piece argues the value of a term of something rather mundane (movie star), which for it’s length doesn’t do much to captivate me as a reader.
Which genre does this fall under? It appears to be an argumentative essay. I guess my point is, if you’re going to argue about something, pick something more relative to the readers, and don’t argue about it quite so hard. List the facts, sure, but avoid creating the feeling that your’e throwing them in the face of the reader. I will say this, if you managed to channel the attitude I’m feeling here from the reading into a character, that would be quite interesting. In fact if you had even wrote a more fictional piece where two or more people are in an argument about movies this piece could have a lot of life breathed into it. I like that you have strength to your piece. I want to see you focus it a bit more.
…And Action!
What is a drug dealer?
What makes a drug dealer a drug dealer? A drug dealer is a bipedal and humanoid that is bent on the harm and destruction of its species members. What makes a movie star a movie star? A movie star is a candidate for greater popularity and fame, trampling upon the corpses of their bitter rivals. Both are cold hearted monstrosities. Shia LeBouef once said that “Hollywood is full of bottom feeders and heart broken people.”
The criteria of a drug dealer are three things:
Can deadline a drug that is not tied to the notorious -=high=-?
Can you rack in 100 million dollars in profit consistently?
Can you escape a D.E.A. police bust successfully 5 out of 8 times?
Let’s face it, some movie stars are higher up the ladder, as some drug dealers are more popular in their “area” of interest. Jonah Hill and James Franco are not as well-known in other parts of the world as DiCaprio and Will Smith are. Similarly, some drug dealers specialize in certain neighborhoods and locales where as others may influence an entire city. This is what separates the star of a movie from a movie star, the drug dealer from a drug LORD and the boys from the men.
Similarities between a drug dealer a and movie star: Ruthless, relentless, remorseless, big payday, tragic life.
Differences between a drug dealer and a movie star: The prior dies in homicide. The latter commits suicide.
There is plenty of contrast between a star in a movie and movie star. A movie star can always be a star in a movie whereas a star in a movie has to work his/her way up to movie star status. A squares are rectangles, but not all rectangles are squares. However, a drug dealer may deal other things, but will always be known for dealing drugs and a dealer in drugs is automatically a drug dealer.
…And CUT!
“What makes a drug dealer a drug dealer? A drug dealer is a bipedal and humanoid that is bent on the harm and destruction of its species members. What makes a movie star a movie star? A movie star is a candidate for greater popularity and fame, trampling upon the corpses of their bitter rivals. Both are cold hearted monstrosities. ”
“Differences between a drug dealer and a movie star: The prior dies in homicide. The latter commits suicide” a little too strong, dont cha think ?
why are you so passionate about this? why should i agree with you? why should i even care what you say? is your opinion even credible? on what basis are you making your points beside yourself? why are you assuming i think the same way as you do ?
the last question is the main problem, if you think for the reader, there is no point of reading.
but you make great points and i somewhat agree, but thats not the point
oops you didnt even write the essay, but yea comment is still relevent
I don’t understand what just happened…but okay. I think you should be aware that some of your readers are uninformed about the movie industry such as I am. If you use jargon, such as “rebooted” or “eight movie stretch,” even though a reader can make an informed guess on their definitions based on the context, you should still explain what these are. You do this with many terms as well; you listed “these type of movies,” and gave a few examples, but you don’t elaborate on what those types of movies are supposed to be. Superhero movies? And pop culture titles? What are these? It seems like you were trying to explain more where you talk about big budgets with big returns, but overall, it feels like you were writing for people who should already know everything about what you’re talking about. It’s a shame, because I think you have a point and you could really expand your audience and make it more inclusive just by explaining more thoroughly.
Your conclusion was very confusing as well. It didn’t seem to serve its purpose as a conclusion by really concluding anything. Every sentence in your conclusion was confusing, and you also introduced the idea of perspectives quite late into your piece. By the end, I still couldn’t completely grasp your definition of a movie star versus an actor. Is this only your opinion or do you speak for many others as well? If you get really specific, explain things to us at a reduced pace, and give us a lot more in regards to backing up your points, then I think you will have a great creative nonfiction piece.
“General audiences mix acting ability with movie stardom and that’s wrong. Everyone agrees that Daniel-Day Lewis is probably the greatest actor of his generation but he’s not a movie star. ”
this is what was wrong with your piece. It sounded like a im right youre wrong kinda thing, and even though you make valid points, you give the reader no room for their own interpretation which leads this piece to be pretty boring.
now with that said, you do give GREAT points and even if the reader would agree with you (which is the point, because the piece would make no sense otherwise) its still boring. Although this is not a memoir and you have less room to show not tell, you should give atleast something to the reader, or all this is a one sided lecture youre forced to listen to.
“What is a movie star?” is an interesting piece of writing targeted to an audience that is knowledgeable of mainstream movies and pop culture. The essay tries to distinguish what a famous actor, movie star, celebrity, and known actor means to the public, which illustrates an analytical approach to the topic that made the essay simpler to comprehend. The author of the story tries to establish a trusting relationship with the reader by referencing many different movies and actors from the movie industry to show their familiarity with the topic. But after reading the essay, the reader realizes that the author is biased because the essay only focuses on male “movie stars,” which immediately discredits the writer’s authority on this topic.
This essay could be improved if the author does extensive research to get accurate numbers from a film company about the total gross of each film from a credible source and maybe even talk about each “movie stars” training as an actor to show how some actors have formal training and some do not. For example, the writer could say, “He (Ice Cube) has brought returns in almost all of his movies. In the 16 movies he has been the lead or co-star in only four haven’t made a profit. 9 of out of 16 have more than tripled their investment; however Ice Cube stars in movies that have 10 million to 15 million dollar budgets and they only make about 20 to 50 million dollars in profit” according to a IMBD or something along the lines of that. This technique was employed in David Forster Wallace’s Consider the Lobster and it established a trust between the writer and reader. Likewise, the second paragraph could be expanded, which would help the argument of the essay by showing how a rapper could easily become a “movie star.”
Finally, the essay could be stronger if the writer considered using anecdotes related to the theme to express the importance of distinguishing individuals in the entertainment industry. For example, one anecdote that could demonstrate the main theme is explaining the difference between a musician and an entertainer.
I found that you did have background information on the type of actors, “Cruise, Smith, Denzel, Depp, Sandler and DiCaprio” which were good actors you utilized to describe your point. Your piece gets your critics into the state of defense. I felt like you can rephrase some parts of your piece so it can be more assertive. As used before “General audiences mix acting ability with movie stardom and that’s wrong. Everyone agrees that Daniel-Day Lewis is probably the greatest actor of his generation but he’s not a movie star.” Isn’t assertive rather it’s aggressive.
“1998’s He Got Game was the last movie he did that didn’t earn money;” Statics would work great in this piece add more. I liked the piece, I got an insight of what a movie star actually is. Your title could be a little more interesting, the question as the title gives away the mystery of the piece.
I like the topic you chose for your piece, and the voice you used throughout the piece. Unfortunately, the further I went down the more lost I became. I’m at a loss when it comes to movies, because “I’m not well versed” in this subject. I think one quality of a great opinion piece is the ability to convince your reader that your argument is correct – regardless of the reader’s ignorance to the subject matter or the reader’s personal opinion. I believe you could have incorporated a little background information to aid the reader, and a little more outside research (statistics of ticket sales, news paper articles, etc.) to make your opinion appear to be stronger.
In the beginning of your piece the subject immediately caught my attention. After all who doesn’t love movies and the individuals who are responsible for characters that captivate us as viewers. As your essay continued I felt your opinion was a bit forced on the reader, for that reason it made me question some of your references. The author did a wonderful job mentioning actors who are versatile in their craft but unfortunately didn’t help any in your piece. I felt like the delivery of “What is a Movie Star” was meant to be passionate but fell stale. I struggled with understanding your conclusion and it’s purpose. I think it’s a good first draft and your content has potential. This particular piece of work does have well thought out points and surrounds a compelling topic.
I thought this piece was informative and well researched. The topic caught me off guard, but it did well in convincing me to rethink about what makes a successful actor and movie. The importance of separating an actor’s skill, popularity and ability to propel a movie is something that many may not ever care about, but that is interesting to reflect upon. Even for those who may not watch movies often, most people can name at least one actor they like and understand why making the distinction between celebrity and movie superstardom is important. I believe that paragraph structure could be rearranged, but it was otherwise a good piece.
This piece spoke to me as a persuasive speech would because the voice of the writer seemed determined for readers to agree on their position instead of just putting out the valid facts of your position and allowing readers to take a stance. I felt like this piece didn’t really have a focal point and because what makes a movie star a movie star is so subjective and so vague of a topic it becomes very difficult for readers to get the jist of what the author is actually trying to convey.
Perhaps it would work better to zoom in on what exactly it is you are trying to say and focus on information that would validify your points so that they can be clear to readers. I say these things respectfully and I truly hope my comments can be useful.
Great topic!
Everyone has their favorite actors and movies, so you picked a topic that everyone would be interested in and that each reader would have their own subjective appreciation of. Your well articulated piece describing the difference between a movie star and a star in movies creates a fun exercise for the reader as they get to evaluate their own favorite actors and movies and see where those fit on the spectrum of stardom.
For me, my favorite movie is “Aliens.” The lead character in that movie is Ripley, played by Sigourney Weaver. After reading your piece, I reflected that I make an immediate association with Sigourney Weaver and Ripley and the xenomorphs from the movies- she did not eclipse the movie- she is a star of movies!
I also loved the movie “Predator,” but it is impossible for any observer to claim that the alien in the movie “Predator” is more famous than Arnold Schwarzenegger- he is a movie star!
I enjoyed your piece very much, no complaints. You have a way with words and your argument is convincingly explained with actual facts (box office profits/how many films a star acted in) to support it. Very well done.
This is an interesting piece. I’m not sure I agree with it though. Who is Taylor Lautner? Just from reading what you wrote about him I know that he has something to do with Twilight, but I’m not clear as to what his role is. I think you should clarify for people who arn’t total movie buffs.
You mention that some of these movies are bigger than the actors, but if the movie is big enough it can make the actor’s career. Look at Elijah Wood, who earned his fan base and fame to the Lord of The Rings trilogy. How about Robert Downey Jr? He is Iron man but he, as an actor, has his own fan base that does help fuel his success. Just because a person isn’t a frothing at the mouth fanatic doesn’t mean that they arn’t part of a person’s fan base. To me the fact that people see a name that they recognize and are willing to pay money
I think you need to reorganize this piece. Its a bit unclear. You talk about how profit doesn’t matter in the middle and then list profit figures in the last paragraph to justify your choices of “real movie stars.” I think that if you reorganize and make your argument a little more streamlines and clear it will be a much more persuasive piece.
Kerel, Overall I understood that what you attempted to do here was critique the movie industry and more the so the way that movie actors are portrayed. I found your piece a little hard to follow in the beginning and half way through I almost didn’t want to finish reading. It picked up a bit towards the end but at that point it was just too much information to digest. Although I don’t doubt that you’re well informed of your topic of criticism; unfortunately through the evidence you provided it didn’t seem like you did much research.
I would suggest for you to focus on what exactly you would like to criticize, if it’s either actor’s in the movie industry, actor’s in general, or whatever other topic you’d like to discuss. You have multiple essays that could stem from you’re piece, I feeling like you could probably pull out a great essay if you could narrow your ideas down. Your style of writing is very nice, you’re informative and I like that you get straight to the point without too much “fluff”. However, if your choosing to be with direct in your writing, make sure you don’t loose your personality. When revising your piece, make sure to keep the parts where you’ve asked hypothetical questions and such because it spices up the essay.
I think you have some great points of how a movie star could be define and i think you give great examples of doing so. However, I think your piece could be much better if you could let the reader give their own interpretation (like someone mentioned above) by changing the language a bit. I believe that would make this piece much more interesting for someone like me who don’t really know much about movie stars and movies.
In your paper, you neglect to include women as movie stars. In order to prevent any controversies I would include a couple of names of female movie stars. The way you compare movie stars and franchises it appears that movie stars cannot be part of a franchise; we know that this is not true. I think you could rework that part of your paper to make your position clearer. In the first paragraph of your paper you do not explain per se the relationship between Affleck and Batman. You seem to imply that Ben Affleck would not be a good star in a Batman movie. I tend to think that although Ben Affleck has had roles mainly in family movies and comedies, he would be a great Batman. I think that fans make the movie star, you disagree. I further think that DVD sales help make a movie star, unlike your opinion. Essentially, I think that what makes a movie star is revenue he or she generates via admissions from the general audience as well as fans, DVD sales, and the sale of merchandise. But, we should not forget that a movie star is not just about revenue, it is also about the actor’s ability to perform, his or her charisma, and his or her abilities as a businessperson.
After reading your piece superstar I comprehend your reason of what a superstar is. Even though my idea of a superstar may be different to yours, I understand your point by the way you convey that in your paper. To me a superstar also has to do with the actor’s charisma. I really do think that using facts about other movie stars are a good idea in order to emphasize your point. I would have liked to see the titles of the movies instead of just saying “the movie made this and ‘that movie’.” Adding those things to your paper would make it stronger.
I felt that your criteria for what makes a movie star a movie star was addressed too late into the essay. If you are going to have your title as a question, bringing up your criteria at the beginning would definitely help me make an understanding of what you are trying to convey. You did make a good point with some of the criteria that must be met in order for an actor can be qualified as a movie star, but it definitely could have been explained not only from the male actors stance, but from the females as well.
The jargon that you used for your essay was appropriate for somebody that is a major film buff, like myself.
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